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Tom Cobb
IP: 69.149.71.37
Feb 28, 06 - 6:46 PM Uship website
I was just nosing around on the Uship website to see what was there and to get an idea what changes have been made. I checked on the bids on a horse trailer from NY to TX. So far the low bid is $.81 cpm. I have been doing this long enough to know you can't make any money at that rate.
I checked on what the bidder says about himself. All he gives is his CDL number and that he drove a million miles and does this for a living. That does not say crap. The question is this: Is he legally operating. Where is his DOT/MC numbers??? He states he never had a claim. How can he get commercial insurance without the DOT/MC numbers? Bet he is not properly insured. There is no name of his company available either (that I could find).
These people are outlaws and illegal operators and give this business a bad reputation and undercut the professionals that spend the money and time to do this right. Doing it right is the only way.
Someday a shipper will suffer a loss or someone will be injured by a hauler that is illegal and they will come after everybody connected including Uship and company (if you have one) for damages.
You should follow what express transporters does and require proof of operating authority and insurance (including Uship on the insurance so that they will be notified if the insurance cancels). This will protect them and the shipper.
As long a the legal operators support the site they will continue to operate the site and allow the illegals to use it to get loads. Until this stops I will not use it.
Seems like this site mostly helps wildcats, hurts the legals and brings us all down a notch.
riserco industries inc.
IP: 70.213.85.119
Mar 1st, 2006 - 5:31 AM Re: Uship website
i'm not a big fan of u ship, but i did haul a couple of loads from there w/out commercial ins. w/ my personal truck, i was going that way to visit family so i was able to pay my fuel, as for ins. , i bought single load cargo ins. however, that was in the past and i do not & will not do it any more. i realised that if to many people delivered this way then it would lower the price for hotshot drivers & my own trucks as well. i say no to cheap loads now ,sorry for the past,
jerry
IP: 70.209.182.104
Mar 1st, 2006 - 8:57 PM Re: Uship website
IMHO, Uship needs a central dispatch. That way if a transporter needs to negotiate a haul or talk rates, at least he could do it faster and not waste his time trying to secure a load. At least for 7.9% of the freight, everybody would get their moneys worth, plus save everyone alot of BS.
Email: doublejtransport@cox.net
Mike Rodriguez
IP: 68.101.230.199
Mar 2nd, 2006 - 7:24 AM Re: Uship website
Gentlemen
Until you all go to the FMCSA site.( the FMCSA told me it not just for shippere, its for all of us), www.protecyourmove.gov, and put in a complaint. Uship will roll right along making more money than the poor saps running these .18-.51+cpm.loads.
Don't think FMCSA isn't watching them already, but like they told me, " the more complaints we get the faster we move". Its time WE, do something, not talk about it.
Regardless of what MICKEY/MATT(the owner)/E.J. ETAL say about the marketplace They are collecting money from Drivers, and this makes them "BROKERS" per the FMCSA Office, I talked to. I have already had a shipper tell me he was going to start using Uship, because they were less expensive, that was last week, he called me this morning to get the work done, after the "Rag-a-muffin" as he called it. showed up in an old beat-up U-Haul Trailer.
So remember " Actions speak Louder than Words".
My two cents ( made my complaint alraedy, took three minutes online).
Food for thought: Before Mickey changed the Community Feed back site. I remeber well reading about a guy getting funds from Uship to finish a run, a gal?? saying she/he/had to get a large deposit to finish a run because she had run out of time on her phone card, and fuel card, her engine was acting up, and she couldn't fix it. Etc. Gents we probably all have hauled ouside the law at one time ,I know "I can't throw the first stone", But if you don't PROTECT our/your industry, who will. I threw a pebble, enough of pebbles, thrown and you can DAM a River, It just take enough of them thrown, not talked about.
Good Luck ,Safe Driving, and May God Bless Us and our Great Country. Mike Rodriguez MRT.
P.S. When your down in the dumps, turn on the Uship site and Read the comments on the Community site, especialy "ask Mickey" ( the B.S. will make you laugh"
Email: mrtruck@cox.net
Jerry Mock
IP: 68.224.41.23
Mar 2nd, 2006 - 9:44 AM Re: Uship website
I for one, will bid no lower than $0.85 cpm BOTH ways. Thats empty going and loaded coming home!
The only way I bid low on a "oneway" is if I've got a GOOD paying load coming home. The low bid usually pays for my round trip fuel costs. So that makes the primary load pretty much "gravy"!
As far as Uship is concerned, IMHO, they're promoting cutthroat operations and running JUNK equipment, to say the least!
I've got an '05 Chevy dually and an '05 40 + 5 G/N that I try to keep in impeckable condition!
I have gone across the scales in California as many as 3 times in one day. I know people have told me that I'm driving a p/u, but I'd rather have the CHP tell me not to come into the scales, than chase me down for not stopping!
The FMCSA website says " All brokers will keep records of all transactions" How about Mickey? Got records...Red Flag this!
Email: doublejtransport@cox.net
Contact # 702 565 3501 cell 525 8356
EJ Lawless
IP: 24.153.132.190
Mar 2nd, 2006 - 1:55 PM Re: Uship website
uShip by law is not a broker – we are a neutral venue where two parties can find each other. As our user agreement states, it is the job of the shipper and driver to verify that they are each legally able to transport the given goods. We are able to stay neutral because we are an open marketplace – much like a phone book – where anyone can use us. Additionally, we do not contract with shippers or drivers, as a freight broker does. We do not get involved in the actual shipping transaction – all details, payment, etc… are handled between the shipper and driver once the match is made. uShip is simply the venue for people to find each other and agree on a price to deliver the goods. We perform a marketing service by attracting shipments to list on the site.
If you have any further questions, please be sure to take a look at the user agreement that each member accepts before joining (http://www.uship.com/user_agreement.aspx) – this will walk you through the ins and outs of uShip and how we are set up to work. Please feel free to contact me as well…
uShip is an open marketplace where people who need items shipped list them for people who transport goods.
uShip is different than many traditional sources of loads, and than the traditional shipper/driver relationship.
uShip disintermediates the market by removing the broker from the scene. Instead of acting as a middleman, uShip allows the shipper to choose the hauler they want based on a combination of feedback rating and price. In some cases feedback is more important, in some cases price is.
uShip only provides a central location for the marketplace, and is not in the business of policing the market. We are not the DOT nor the FMCSA, we are not a broker. We are a lead generation service and charge only for successful leads.
uShip has many different types of shipments from commercial freight, pets, horses, cars, and household moves. We are a shipping marketplace. uShip provides more value to some haulers versus others. uShip does have legal hot shotters who bid on, and match, uShip loads.
uShip is a growing company that is trying to create a new way of connecting shippers with drivers. There will be some bumps along the road, but at the same time, uShip will create new value.
My preference would be that we all work together to build a better marketplace. You have all mentioned that the prices and quality of the freight is low. We are working on a few deals to bring in more professional shippers, who will need shipments moved faster, and will take higher prices as a result.
It's obvious there is a demand for higher quality freight, so I will make it a priority to bring in better paying freight.
Email: ej@uship.com
E.J
Please Quote for ALL of us, what page and Chapter (or at least the page/s) in the : U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FEDERAL MOTOR CARRIER SAFTY ADMINISTRATION- FEDERAL MOTOR CARRIER SAFTY REGULATIONS, Handbook, which is the LAW (updated Quarterly). Also known as the Green Book. Where it states that you are exempt, from all the Regulations, Lic., and Bonding requirements, required by any other Broker,Frieght Forwarder, or Matching Service, That takes a Percentage from only the Carrier. ( the newest edition from, J.J. Keller is only 588 pages. Last I knew ALL MOTOR CARRIERS, ARE, required to have one in thier possession By LAW.
I don't wand to overload you with more so I'll go back to my nap, while I'm waiting.
Mike Rodriguez, MRT
P.S. Thank Guys this is the only way WE/US can clean up our Industry, from Alleged Illegal Sites and SCABB's.
The FMCSA would also like to know ?????
Email: mrtruck@cox.net
Jerry Double J Transport
IP: 70.219.184.140
Mar 2nd, 2006 - 9:53 PM Re: Uship website
Filed! I guess what really "irks" me, is the fact that even dealing with "legitimate" brokers and having a hard time collecting and along comes someone who wants you to haul his JUNK for nothing for a long distance on top of it all!
Email: doublejtransport@cox.net
Tom Cobb
IP: 69.149.71.37
Mar 3rd, 2006 - 7:40 AM Re: Uship website
Go to the link below and look at the post under Drivers/Haulers Opinions and subject Tips.
MRTrucking posted some info about a State of Texas website. Go to that site and use the tax id # to search the public records. What it says explains why we need to shut them down.
Email: bigttransport@sbcglobal.net
Rose
IP: 63.235.239.144
Mar 25th, 2006 - 5:09 AM Re: Uship website
I have been watching uship site and watching the freight rates and the different shippers.
Guys, I dont see what everyone is upset about.
Yes, the rates are LOW BALLED.
Yes, there is alot of WILD CAT operations on the site.
but I dont see were this effects you. Dont like the rate or the lenght of time it takes to confirm a shipment. DON'T use the site.
For the grandmother shipping her piano, I hope she gets the lowest rate possible and for the commercial shipper shipping his ammo, we all know what he will end up getting.
If you ever have to make up a few dollars on a load.
It is there.
As for the 7% they charge. That isn't a bad fee.
When was the last Broker Load you got that only charge 7%.
If uship shut down there site today. You still would not have no more freight than you have now.
Live and Let Live Drivers.
Email: rose_pack@msn.com
Contact # 817/645-4973
riserco industries inc.
IP: 70.213.59.201
Mar 25th, 2006 - 7:37 AM Re: Uship website
WELL SAID ROSE
Chris
IP: 12.202.31.54
Mar 25th, 2006 - 3:36 PM Re: Uship website
Well let me see.... I have to have a $10,000.00 bond and pay an extra $300.00 to buy another MC number ( yes you have to have a seperate MC # to be a broker). When you talk to them at the FEMCA they told me that if you take 1% of a load for payment then you are broker. I do know companies that are charging 10 to 15 % and playing broker.
I feel like most everyone esle does. We need to turn in these companies that are not on the up and up. If you don't get paid on a load who can you go after if the broker is not bonded? Its like asking someone to pull loads that have insurance for the same low price as someone with none. If the guy pulling as no insurance who can you back after.
Email: Ctack417@yahoo.com
Rose
IP: 65.140.211.20
Mar 26th, 2006 - 7:11 AM Re: Uship website
The neat thing about uship loads is you don't unload until you have payment in hand. There is no broker to finger your money before you get it.
There is no "the checks in the mail"
No fees for Quick Pay or Factoring your bills.
$10,000 bond isnt enough to cover a good shipment anyway. It wont cover a RV, A new auto, and maybe not grandma's piano.
The shipper takes the risk atuship.
Email: rose_pack@msn.com
Contact # 817/645-4973
Rose
IP: 65.140.211.20
Mar 26th, 2006 - 7:30 AM Re: Uship website
The 7% is only assest if you take a shipment.
Unlike findahauler, express transporters and several other sites. They require a monthly fee just to access wether you book or not.
Yes, the outlaw transporters swarm the site but they will eventually hang there selves.
I dont knock brokers. They are very essential in this biz but I do believe there is room for all.
Email: rose_pack@msn.com
Contact # 817/645-4973
Tom Cobb
IP: 68.90.219.231
Mar 26th, 2006 - 10:57 AM Re: Uship website
You are missing the point Rose. Illegal is illegal is illegal. If we don't police the industry but continue to let the outlaws run we will be out of business. It is hard enough to make it go without the outlaws but for us to just let it go means that we loose not them.
It is the same for all walks of life. If the ones trying to do it legally and right don't take a stand then we will be overrun and have nobody to blame but ourselves.
This country has become a nation of "just let it go" people. Our forefathers would not tolerate it and neither should we. Just look at where we are with the illegal alien situation. It is because nobody wanted nor wants to get involved and take a stand.
Every illegal activity spreads because nobody takes a stand. I for one will take a stand. Wrong is wrong...period.
Email: bigttransport@sbcglobal.net
curt
IP: 65.81.218.34
Mar 26th, 2006 - 11:07 AM Re: Uship website
Well TOM COBB tell me do you ever go over on your log book are you all ways telling the truth?DO you ever speed are any thing at all if so you are not runnung legall either.And for you to start talking about forfathers and immirgration you seem to take things the wrong way.You need to leave imirgration out of it are you prejustice are something?
propinvest
IP: 71.87.123.95
Mar 26th, 2006 - 12:57 PM Re: Uship website
i do not want to throw it back in your face guys, but the freight situation is not the fault of uship, it is the law of supply and demand. some of these drivers are smooth talking characters, if i had something of value, dam bet there would be proof of authority and insurance in my hand before i give you my car, that is why i feel if these people are stupid enough to do it, so be it. i have heard more than a few whine that their property was impounded with the drivers truck and trailer for no authority and insurance, to bad so sad mr/mrs shipper, if you would have used a legal company it would not only be delivered by now, but actually covered by insurance worth more than a forged piece of paper. the best way i have found to remedy this situation, is when a shipper says someone is willing to do it for less, i ask them if they have been to the www.safersys.gov website and verified authority, insurance, and accident ratio, BECAUSE NO AMOUNT of personal insurance will cover a shipment for hire. that website that sells a policy on a pay per haul also includes an exemption in the fine print, it says you must have authority to comply with contract. the sad reality is that we are finding more and more commercial shipments on uship, but, a reputable shipper or broker will not deal with you without your paperwork in their hand and verified to protect their customers. what we can do is continue to police ourselves, if you want to keep your nose out of it, when you see a truck and trailer from one state and an auto from another, call the sheriff and make a complaint that something flew off the car and landed in the lane of traffic causing you to swerve, but left no damage, and in your opionion they may want to pull them over and check the tie downs, BOOM, now they are checking plates and asking questions gentleman, did you report an illegal hauler? no, you reported a safety hazard and they took it from there, yes sneaky, but i have done it and will continue to. authority and insurance costs money, and i will not stand by while someone undercuts me because he is a wildcat who pays no insurance or taxes like me and other haulers. i have my lunch money, uship just ads a little gravy, so the rates here are not much of my concern on autos, they are low and that is why i have my own auto contacts and use this to add fillers only.
Email: propinvestgroup@charter.net
Tom Cobb
IP: 68.90.219.231
Mar 26th, 2006 - 6:33 PM Re: Uship website
Curt
You don't know what you are talking about. I used that issue as an example. It has nothing to do with prejuice, only violation of the law. We all do something illegal at sometime because we are humans but willful violation is not acceptable in a nation of laws.
You seem to miss the point also. I guess you are one of those that will sit back and let illegal operators have their way. What a pity.
I really would like for the posters to read what is said and the context of what is said before replying. It sure would help eliminate misinterpretations and misunderstandings.
Email: bigttransport@sbcglobal.net
propinvest
IP: 71.87.123.95
Mar 27th, 2006 - 4:53 AM Re: Uship website
remedial english in your future? i guess you did not understand my sentance about calling the cops.
Email: propinvestgroup@charter.net
Gary
IP: 71.118.24.192
Mar 27th, 2006 - 1:01 PM Re: Uship website
It seems like Uship started a campaign recentley to find legit haulers? Atleast that was my impression when I started reading there comments in this forum and on others. That alone tells me they need haulers in a bad way. So far it's been just a big waist of time for me. Everytime I try to get a piece of LTL on there my trucks 1000 miles are better down the road by the time the shipper answers my questions. besides that they want it done for half or less what I offer to do it for. None of us are ever going to make any money off of Uship.
Email: freightbroker@verizon.net
Am I mistaken or is uship not partly owned by Ebay?
If I remember right I read somewhere that Ebay purchased 40% of Uship not to long ago, might be wrong but don't think I was dreaming it. I have gotten some loads off of uship but just to fillin,and it just takes to long for shippers to get back to you. Then the illegals make it almost impossible to even get a load cause they are doing it for next to nothing. Just my observation!
Email: mooseontheloosetransporters@comcast.net
Contact # 503-888-5622
Mike Rodriguez
IP: 68.101.230.199
Apr 2nd, 2006 - 9:51 PM Re: Uship website
Your observation is right on target.
Mike R. MRT
Email: mrtruck@cox.net
Jerry Mock
IP: 72.193.36.114
Apr 4th, 2006 - 11:25 AM Re: Uship website
What I don't understand is, on some shipments on UShip, the shipper puts up a good rate and these illegals go in and start chopping it up BIG time!
I mean if the rate is good why cut your own throut, especially if your the only bidder?!?
Email: doublejtransport@cox.net
Contact # 702 565 3501 cell 525 8356
Don
IP: 71.193.166.165
Apr 4th, 2006 - 4:24 PM Re: Uship website
Well another observation about the ones that cut throat on this site is that alot of them seem dumb to me.Asking questions that only common sense will answer. Well not to be one to belittle people I better keep my mouth shut and stop poking sticks before I poke my own eye out.
Email: mooseontheloosetransporters@comcast.net
Contact # 503-888-5622
Gary
IP: 71.118.24.192
Apr 10th, 2006 - 4:56 PM Re: Uship website
I've been watching uship pretty close, I just wander if it's the shipper undercutting the bid in an attempt to drive his rate down? I just can't believe people are actually moving vehicles for 21 cents per mile. If they are they sure won't be in business very long. In the 3 months I've been looking at uship I haven't been able to haul anything on there site. I keep getting bid request but the target prices are way to low. When you try to politely educate them about rates they become very rude, just like a cheap freight broker.
Email: freightbroker@verizon.net
Funny thing happened yesterday, I was picking up from one of my regulars and he happened to ask me about UShip. I almost swallowed my candy, I told him just be careful and ask for Authority and Ins. and then run it in the Safersys. to verify that its there Authority, ( seems that some of them have just picked numbers out of the sky). Dave then said he wouldn't or couldn't use them because " who are you going to put in a claim with, if anything happens"."UShip". Dave also said after reading the community page Forum, he has decided that he needs a dependable, on time and reliable Carrier.
I have also noticed less Commercial Freight on the site, with the exception of the low ball freight you see on the LTL Load Boards.
To much goo paying Freight out there to play with the cheap sh-t, although I have bid on some Loads at my Rate and not below.
Well got to get on the Road, Good Luck and God Bless.
Mike Rodriguez,MRT.
_________________ I currently cover the Western States, doing Exedited/Hot Shot Freight, with a 2005 Dodge Sprinter Cargo Van and a 2002 Ford F-750 Box/Van, Truck 24' X 102" X 102" with a 5500lb Railift.
Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:54 am
Tom Cobb
Site Admin
Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 563
Location: Hurst, TX
He has it right, who would he file a claim against. It leaves the driver holding the bag.
Some guys I know are using Uship for trailer loads for a backhaul. That is all I will ever use the site for and I have to be in a bind.
_________________ Former owner/operator of Big T Transport Services - transporting horse and stock trailers, RV's, boats, car haulers, utility trailers, and anything else that can be towed by a 3500 dually.
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