Apportioned plates

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Tad

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Mar 17, 06 - 5:39 AM Apportioned plates

????, when you go for you apportioned plates you have to declare what states your going to run in. They want milage for each state, those of you that have gone apportioned, what is a good figure for milage?

Next question, Mississippi, is there anyone on this forum that has apportioned plates from Ms? What did they cost? Do they give you a courtesy plate for your trailer? Finally, does the ms tax commission give everyone grief about running a standard tag instead of apportioned?

All input would be greatly appreciated.
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Gary

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Mar 17th, 2006 - 11:50 AM Re: Apportioned plates

Tad The State your based in should have a chart to go by. For instance California has a IRP hand book they give out to anyone that wants apportioned plates. I have a chart to go by here but it won't do you anygood because the mileages are figured for being based out of California.

I have a team O/O hotshot that is based out of MS that works with me and there having a hell of a time trying to get apportioned plates.MS is saying because they're under 26,000 GVW they can't get them. I just registered a new Dodge today with apportioned plates for 30,000 gvw and had no trouble at the DMV. I have to admit the paperwork can be alittle confusing but we managed to get it done ourselves. I was told I could register a VW with apportioned plates if I wanted to? Ask your State if they have a handbook for apportioned plates. Good Luck
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Joshua Kay

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Apr 13th, 2006 - 8:02 PM Re: Apportioned plates

Tad you need to get the paperwork and fill it out as gcvwr of whatever it is. Mine is for 36k (I can pull every bit of it). You need apportioned tags if you plan to go accross state lines over 26k. Some states are harder PA for one. One of my drivers from there just used my AL address to get plates here. He had the same problem. PA was telling him that his truck wasn't designed for that weight. My advice is try again but if it ca't be done use a friends address and re tag the truck in another state. This would include a license change but it is all possible as we'e done it.
Tom Cobb

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Apr 13th, 2006 - 8:59 PM Re: Apportioned plates

I don't recall who told me this very recently but he had witnessed a hotshot rig being shutdown because his combined loaded weight exceeded the combined manufacture weight ratings of the truck. Each truck has a GCWR. I am not sure if anyone placards that wt but it is available in manufacturers specs.

The state DOT's are beginning to be more active at checking this stuff on hotshot rigs.
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Jerry Mock

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Apr 15th, 2006 - 8:23 PM Re: Apportioned plates

I don't have apportion plates but, like Tom said they're really watching how p/u's are being registered.
I was stopped at the Nevada inspection station in Sloan outside of Vegas and had a 10K gvcw on my registration. At the time, I had a 8000 lb container on which puts me just under 26K gross. I told the NHP officer that I had been "stonewalled" by Nevada DMV and was told I couldn't raise my weight rating! He then called his superior over and who gave me his cell number in case I had problems and told me to get it handled or the next time I'd get a ticket. The next day I spent 6 hours at 3 DMV offices but I got it done!
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B&B Carriers

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Apr 16th, 2006 - 9:30 AM Re: Apportioned plates

No Ms will not give you a temp tag. You will recive the normal paperwork, And just show that, if u are questioned about it. And no Apporinted plates if you are 26K or less. But because of that, each time you cross the scales in N.M. or AZ you will be charged. $26 1 way in N.M. and $79 for 30 days in AZ. They are the only states so far giving me trouble. Doesnt matter what laws you show the officers in those states, YOU WILL be CHARGED! Their laws are different than federal DOT. And no matter who you call, what you show them, you will pay or be shut down. So regardless of what you "know" each state/officer will be a lil different. So just expect to pay in NM and AZ.
BTW I run comerical plates from MS and no hassels at all for that (in MS atleast).
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Tad

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Apr 16th, 2006 - 8:28 PM Re: Apportioned plates

Yeah, Ms state tax commission, such a lovely group of people to work with...hahahaha

Actually, it seems we had a similar discussion which caused me to do a some research in what states can or can't do.

According to FMCSA, NO state can alter nor change a FMCSA ruling WITHOUT a years notice to FMCSA prior to the change. In this case, FMCSA not only holds the rules for the trucks but for the states as well. Whereas in federal rulings or law, states can supercede the laws as long as it enhances it which they can do at there discreation. Thats the reason behind FMCSA to take over the rules for the trucking industry as well as what the states can or can not do to regulate trucks passing through there state.

The only ruling that I know of that the states were allowed to sign off on or not is the SSR. So there are states, example KY and NY, that did not sign off on adopting the SSR ruling.

Someone mentioned on here that you can call the USDOT to complain about being put out of service, detained at a weight station or complain about there behavior. The ultimate question is..............is it worth the hassle. The person made a good point, if your ducks aren't in a row then your really going to get hammered if USDOT sends out a US Marshal and he/she inspects your rig and DOES find you in violation. So in many instances it's easier and cheaper just to pay the money and be on your way. Of course, that's what the states are counting on, they figure most company's will pay the fee and be on there way, if they do fight it they have the finacical backing of the state so it's a win win situation for them.
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W.S. Thompson Trucking

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Apr 21st, 2006 - 8:00 PM Re: Re: Apportioned plates

DOT told us that we had to have apportioned plates even tho we were running less than 26,000 lbs. we got all but the very eastern most states and it cost us #316.00. Texas and California is the most expensive.

We just made a trip from Texas to West Virginia and was stopped at almost every state. They gave one guy a ticket because he had black letters on a blue truck. They are really picking on the hot hot rigs. I thought that I would let everyone know.
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